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Multiculturalism used to be the cornerstone of Australia’s national identity, but now our attitudes seem to be changing. What are your thoughts about this controversial new research from The Scanlon Foundation?

We can define “multiculturalism” as the co-existence of many diverse cultures within one space. Multicultural societies encompass different races, religions, creeds and ethnicities.

According to the Australian Government, multiculturalism in our country “is simply a term which describes cultural and ethnic diversity”.

The federal government aims to support several dimensions of multiculturalism. The first dimension is cultural identity – which allows Australians to express their individual heritage, language and religion.

Another dimension is social justice. This means that every Australian receives equal treatment and opportunity, free from discrimination. But how do these principles work in reality?

New research from The Scanlon Foundation has revealed that attitudes towards multiculturalism vary amongst everyday Australians.

In fact, multiculturalism has stronger support in Melbourne and Canberra, than it does in other capitals. People living in Brisbane and Perth are the least likely to embrace multiculturalism.

“Australia’s diverse culture is one of its most defining characteristics,” said Anthea Hancocks from The Scanlon Foundation. However, the Foundation did recognise there are some “fears and concerns” within our country.

Aussie political scientists like Jennifer Oriel have previously stated that multiculturalism has failed. “Multiculturalism has never been more assailed by the reality of its failings”, she told The Australian.

“To question multiculturalism is to cast oneself down into the pit of modern society, somewhere between Mussolini’s ghost and the tobacco-chewing rednecks of the (historical) South”.

“When public debate is framed in such extreme terms, there is little room for reality and the vital checks it offers to runaway idealism”, Ms Oriel added.

Today, Starts At Sixty wants to know where you stand about this important and polarising topic…

Do you support a multicultural Australia in 2016? Do you believe multiculturalism works?

Can the city you live in change your attitudes towards diversity? Do you have “fears and concerns” about multiculturalism?

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  1. Definitely, our public schools have done a marvelous job of integrating a whole range of different cultures into a pretty cohesive nation, where religion doesn’t set all the rules.

  2. I believe that we can all live together we should be respectful of each other. Assimilation and tolerance no one race is better than the other

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    • Don’t think you need to preach that to us Bea, I think the intolerance is borne from others refusing to assimilate and trying to change this Country into their own.

    • Oh so my parents my husbands parents we are intolerant of others in this country. I don’t think so Bardi Grub the racism that I experienced and my husband experienced came from not others who migrated but Australians who thought we where below them. The sad fact is that because of our color we still get it. Bet you had no idea that I looked like a ” wog”

    • Bea. Unfortunately there are always those who judge others by their skin colour rather than their character. There is little that can be done about them and every culture has them. I worked with a Greek woman of my age whose parents migrated here after the war. She said she was teased because of her race. She was even ridiculed because she ate “wog food”. Now she says that Greeks are part of the multicultural society we have and there are many good Aussies with very Greek surnames.

    • My ex-in-laws are Sri Lankan, eewwww, Tamils to boot, and they are as Aussie as I am. They even work!!!!!!!!

    • Nita Crompton yes I had terrible racism as a kid so did my husband. Kids weren’t allowed to play with me because I was ” not one of them”. Yes and I’ve built a life and worked hard all my life but hey I can walk into a pub with my hubby in some towns and you know all eyes are watching the racism is still out there. It’s disgusting

    • Bea Little It is taught by the parents. Children dont naturally ostracize other children because of their skin colour. I was horrified once at my son’s 4th Maccas birthday party. His best friend had a dark complexion and 2 little girls who weren’t at the party told him they didn’t want to speak to him because of his skin colour. My son had no idea what they were talking about and said his skin was dark too (only because he wanted to be like his friend who was getting upset). This childs parents came to Australia and were more Aussie in a short time than a lot of Aussies – with such discrimination I do wonder how they did it. A daughter came home from childcare very upset because the teachers were trying to instill antidiscrimination in the children telling them they were all different and looked different but were the same inside. My daughter was very upset as her best friend was asian and she had never seen her as different. That is my experience of my own children – if parents of anglo children aren’t discriminating their children wont.

    • Suzanne Oorschot what exactly do you mean this sounds as though you are saying that we are trying to change the laws and ” your way” what ever they may be.

    • Bea Little I am saying that there are people coming in who are not happy with our way of life and our laws and want laws changed because it offends them etc. If they don’t do that I am happy for them to be here.

    • Jeanette Southam true, I saw this so many times at school, kids usually don’t notice skin colour at all. 🙂🌺

    • Suzanne Oorschot that was the same reasoning why my parents my husbands parent why my brothers and sisters all coped racist abuse . We where out to change EVERYTHING funny thing is we did and you know what you all seem to be happy to eat differently. God my parent where laughed at because they picked weeds from the road side. Now it’s as common as a lamb chop

  3. I don’t support any Islamic inclusion in our societies ….

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    • good … I would admire your ideals … but sadly I believe you are totally ignoring Islamic bigotry … I truly hope that you open your eyes and ears and have a serious look around … not just here but the world as well

    • Thanks Brian I’ve done that had a great holiday in a Muslim country. They were so welcoming, I’ve worked with some great Muslims. It is bigotry causing most of the conflicts in the Middle East with many groups claiming the religious high ground and others becoming the enemy. You speak of Muslims as one people when they are as different as the Catholic and Protestants of old.

    • Barbara Easthope Just because some of us can see the problems being caused by a certain lot of people does not mean we are Bigots.

  4. The trouble is that the Muslims are trying to change all of our beliefs like Christmas,Easter etc. no I don’t support it I think it’s a bad idea.

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    • Only some of the more radical muslims. My grandson had a home day care family who are Muslims and they bought him Easter eggs and had signs up saying happy Easter. When it came to Christmas they not only bought him a Christmas present but also bought one for his older brother who only had contact with them on the occasions he accompanied his mother to pick him up.
      Both that family and the Muslim friends I personally have wish everyone Merry Christmas and Happy Easter. One particular family even approached the local primary school and told them it was not right for the children attending to not have a tree for Christmas just because it might be considered offensive. In their words “We came here to be free to do as we wish so why would we want to stop you from being the same”?

    • Mike here-Muslims have been amongst us here in Aus since the turn of the last century, they are not new to Aus. What is new is this radicalised brand of Muslims who are landing on our shores. Hell I’m an immigrant myself coming to Aus in 1960 with my parents. I have 2 children who Identify as Aussies (because they were born here) & four grandchildren. I spent 6 years in the Aust. Army. I served in South Vietnam. Then became a naturalised citizen along with my wife. We were poms when we came here, we are still poms & will probably be called poms until the day we die. I love a meat pie, matter of fact I had a fantastic pie for lunch at Marees Delights in Yorketown on the Southern Yorke Peninsula for lunch today, I have owned a Holden car, I have stroked a kangaroo & indeed compliments of my animal rescue daughter, have bottle fed one. Football I can take or leave. I think I have assimilated time for those yet to

    • Mike here-addendum to the pom reference. Add I believe that we are the only race left in Aus allowed to be vilified still in our country, if you want to call it vilification,I call it Aussie banter

    • Changing Christmas and other Christian beliefs is more about political correctness than Muslims, there are plenty of Aussies who want to take the Christian out of Christmas 🇦🇺

  5. Assimilation and tolerance are the key words when it comes to multiculturalism. I enjoy sampling other cultures and cuisine. Like it or not Australia is a multicultural country, most other countries are. I personally have no problem with it, providing we all stand together, and obey the laws of the Country.

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    • Mike here-but understanding & tolerance needs to be from all cultures,when you get a country full of illegals who seem to hate ou way of life the balance is uneven

    • This post is about multiculturalism NOT about illegals as you call them. MOST people entering Australia are here for all the right reasons…better life….safe country etc Australia is made up of English, Chinese, New Zealanders,Dutch, South Africans golly the list goes on. All living in peace and harmony…that is multiculturalism.

    • Mike here-you said it youself, assimilation, our latest arrivals (illegals) do not intend to assimilate which will make a mess of tolerance & understanding

    • just because you assimilate, doesn mean you have to forget where you come from,you can speak your language, but learn English, since you come to this country, do as the Romans do, as the saying goes

    • You keep calling them illegals Mike if it makes you feel better. The truth is they are not illegals, they are asylum seekers. With attitudes like yours it’s no wonder they are reluctant to assimilate

    • Mike here-again, under the UN charter on refugees as I understand it , a refugee seeking asylum can seek asylum in his first landfall after leaving his country any country hopping after that & they are illegal, I may be wrong

    • They can go to the first country that is a signatory to the refugee convention. That’s us in this area, Indonesia is not a signatory

    • JuneMike Denison the first country may not accept them as asylum seekers so they have to move on. So they remain refugees until they are given asylum which may leave them crossing many borders.

    • Not a lot of signatory countries in our neck of the woods. Not that that will stop people hating

    • Sue Todd I agree. I am very aware of my very diverse heridity/heritage living in NZ and sometimes we can forget that yes, we were immigrants into a new country that was settled by another ethnic grouping. We in NZ, I feel we have tried very hard to recognise our place in our country and acknowledge through the Treaty of Waitangi the misdemeanours of our forefathers. Things they did in their time we feel were not fair or appropriate at the time and we have tried to acknowledge and make redress.amend through Treaty of Waitangi settlements. One of my great grandfathers was sent to this country by his parents to escape years of conscription to the army to fight in wars he would have no choice as to whether or not it was the right thing to do. Admittedly, we have moved on from those days but still there are contentious issue especially when it comes to Syrian refugees. Most kiwis value and embrace our Maori culture.

    • Yeah Mike, good idea for them to go to Africa. Wonderful life there for them. You are a dead set bigot

    • JuneMike Denison I don’t want you as my navigator. Not all our refugees come from the Middle East. Many come from persecuted minorities in Asia, many from Sri Lanka too. Some of those green countries particularly in Africa are generating their own fleeing refugees and although theoretically they can cross the border and seek asylum often they would be no safer.

    • Mike here-at least Sue, from Africa they could have (with the correct paperwork) applied for legal immigration to our country. I worked in Alice Springs at a frail aged care facility for Aboriginal Elders, you will know us bigots, we are the ones doing the physical work with the elders, doing their ablutions, making their beds etc. But the story we enjoyed working with a couple of Ugandans who had walked from Uganda to Chad where they stayed in a refugee camp 1 for 7 years & 1 for 12 years before being accepted as refugees into Aus & you want me to embrsce queue jumpers?

    • You kill your own argument Sue Todd, as Mike said there are plenty of countries between Australia and the muslime countries and yet they go out of their way to get here, bypassing all the other countries. I wonder whether that is because our welfare is so good to them????? If they bypass a country that is a signatory to the refugee convention, then they are NO LONGER ASYLUM SEEKERS, they are illegal country-shoppers!

    • JuneMike Denison well done you Mike. Working in Aged Care takes a special kind of person, and I take my hat off to you. I agree with your comments regarding queue jumping. It is a difficult and trying subject. Sadly in today’s world there are many many people, families, young men etc seeking refuge. It is a world wide problem, and I believe the world needs to unite to help sort the problem out. What the solution is… I wish I knew. There but for the grace of God go I.

    • Mike here-there is no Cape of Good Hope all the way down the eastern seaboard of Africa only when you go as far south on the coast of Africa

  6. Multiculturalism is a furphy. Nearly all countries have one culture, within which other cultures exist.

    Australia has a white, western, liberal, secular, democratic culture, within which Aboriginal and other cultures exist.

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    • Only one problem with your comment, Aboriginal culture should have been first on the list 🙂🇦🇺

    • Not so. Australia does not have a predominant Aboriginal culture. Which is not a value judgement, just a fact.

      A country’s culture is not at the whim of individual opinion or choice. It is what it is.

    • Even so called aboriginal culture was not uniform as they had no concept of Australia or a national identity.

    • Wrong we are by birth in Australia indiginous all brothers and sisters getting on like squabbling siblings these islamists want to bastardise rape plunder pillage control our free world and enslave us they are Parisites pure and simple

    • Brian Howard-Clarke ૐ doesn’t matter about predominant at all, they were here first, can’t argue with that. 🇦🇺

    • The Celts were in GB before the Angles, who were before the Saxons, who were before the Normans. So, the first people has no relevance to predominant culture. I think you are conflating two separate issues.

      The Aboriginals were clearly the first people in the lands that are now Australia. But that, in itself, says nothing about Australian culture. And the original question was regarding culture.

      As I said previously, this says nothing positive or negative about the value of Aboriginal culture. Or that the Aboriginals occupied these lands first. It is just not relevant to the issue at hand.

  7. We’ve been living in a multi cultural society, pretty much all my life…
    the thing is. ..we are Aussies and we have “our ‘ way of living, so unique to other countries, that people actually like. We should remember that.
    People do assimilate into what we all call ourselves, “Stralyan”….pride…love it!

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    • Not all people assimilate. I had a Greek family next door to me for 40 years. The mother could not speak a word of English…and relied on husband and kids for every aspect of her life…..

    • Oh for goodness sake, listen, we don’t mind who comes into our Country, EXCEPT for the ones who want to change us and our laws, and in truth despise us. I love all the nationalities whom are here, they have given us so much. This new lot have given nothing….and if they have can someone tell me what it is…please.

    • From reading these posts..the merging of East and west is never going to be easy..with such an influx..as is already being shown in countries…I do have an expectation that the new wave of refugees/immigrants accept that there is an Australian way of life and they are willing to appreciate that..as they are being offered a safe haven..I would not expect them to give up all traditions…but we are not a muslum country..

  8. Back in 1900 (after federation) when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth and be documented.
    Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.
    They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times.
    They made learning English a primary rule in their new Australian households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
    They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture, whilst still being proud of their own.
    Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labour laws to protect them.
    All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
    Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. Australians fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, Poland and so many other places.
    None of these first generation Australians ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan.
    They were defending the Freedom as one people.
    When we liberated France, no-one in those villages was looking for the Ukrainian-Australian or the German-Australian or the Irish-Australian. The people of France saw only Australians. And we carried one flag that represented our country.
    Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country’s flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here.
    These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an Australian.
    And here we are with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges, but not to learn or speak English, have their own laws and practice medieval customs that are alien to the Australian way of life .
    They want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian passport and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.
    That’s not what being an Australian is all about.
    Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship, persecution, or whatever else makes us think of those aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, and our flag and our morals and our customs. And left their wars, hatred, and divisions behind.
    I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the early 1900s deserve better than that for their toil, hard work and sacrifice. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign battles on our soil, making Australians change to suit their religions and cultures, and wanting to change our country’s fabric by claiming discrimination when we do not give in to their demands. Others CHOSE to come here for our cultures and way of life, we are not discriminating, we just want OUR Australia left the way we have built it !!!

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    • I suggest you look up internment camps in Australia. Don’t imagine our history, go and actually learn something about it. Not your rose tinted version.

    • Barbara Easthope , move forward with the times, internment camps were during WW1 and WW2 and mostly involved people who were already in Australia. I would suspect things were not quite normal during wartime!!!

    • Barbara Easthope of course we had internment camps during the war, just like every other country

    • Mike here-I understood that most of our internment camps were built for Japanese & people of countries we were at war with, who it was feared my try to attack our way of life from within

    • Bardi Grub you wrote as though we were all one happy family and nobody’s origins mattered. Greek, Italian, German or whatever. I’ve moved forward with times but I’ve not forgotten our past nor am I prepared to cleanse or tweak it to suit a narrative

    • JuneMike Denison , that’s the way I read it as well, appears others have a different view!!!

    • Bardi Grub yes Barbi but some people in those camps were 2nd or 3rd generation Australians. They were interned with no chance to prove their loyalty to this country.

    • Bardi Grub you wrote of the sons of the earlier European settlers going off to fight as one nation during the second world war. That didn’t happen, no matter how Australian you’d become, what industry you’d help build, if you came from some nations mainly Germany your loyalty was prejudged, not based on any fact, you and your kids were often bunged into internment camps. Sure the reasons were so you didn’t spy or work secretly for your country of origin or father’s country of origin during the war but it was just another instance where all were judged as one. I suspect it would have been less than 5% that had any wavering of loyalty to Australia.

    • Many people were interned because of public opinion. Families that lived and worked in communities suddenly became the enemy. Whole families, children too, were interned. Sounds familiar doesn’t it?

    • There is no easy answer, wartime makes people and governments do strange things, it’s not usual that you would have years to plan for the occurrence. The government of the day took what immediate action they thought necessary, right, wrong or otherwise, for the safety and security of Australia as they saw it.

    • Barbara Easthope you seem so upset about the internment camps that i have to ask if a family member of yours was interned. No, most of them didn’t deserve to be but that is just the way it was in wartime.

    • Mike here-my only paternal uncle was captured by the Japanese in Burma, was in a POW camp, Kancanaburi, at 19 where he died at the age of 21, I believe that the internment of pow’s in Aus was nowhere near as harsh as in the east

    • I totally agree with your sentiments they say a lot about what the true Australians feel about our wonderful country to my way of thinking if you don’t like the way we run this country you are within your rights to leave and go back to where you came from do not bring your hatred for the true Australians

    • Here here you hit the nail on the head couldn’t agree with you Bardi in fact I applaud you 😎👍👍

    • this too is my Australia! I agree wholeheartedly with this well written story of MY Australia, call me racist if you want but I believe the rot started with Australia letting the “white Australia policy ” go because of political correctness, which has never been a part of our culture! If anything unpolitical is more Australian, and a huge part of why we were Loved around the world!

    • Barry grub.
      I agree with everything you said. No other culture or religion should be demanding we change anything here in our country.
      Bring back classes that teach all religions in primary. Being back Xmas carols and Christmas windows in the shops.
      Don’t bring immigrants in who will not assimilate and with whom we will be incompatible because of treatment of women, polygamy, making women second hand citizens.

    • Bardi i loved every true word you said previously, i was one of the people you wrote about. came here in 1957 with many thousands of people, and yes, we were all thankful to be able to settle here,work hard, I at 14 went to work,never had a handout, never wanted a handout, learned Rnglish as soon as I could, been loving Australia, but never forgetting where i came from. Thank you for your view

  9. I’ve never believed in multiculturalism, and no doubt some of you are already about to hit the ‘redneck’ button. But hear me out. I have always supported multi-racialism – note, I wrote racialism, not racism (which I detest). In my view, multi-racialism means that people of any race or colour are welcome here; they are welcome to celebrate their own high days and holy days, dress as they like (within reason), practice their own religion and so on. But at the end of the day they must want to become Australians, accept our culture beside theirs and obey our laws. The only exception to this, I believe, are the original inhabitants…

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    • Oh I so agree with you! Multiculturalism allows people to live here with no intention of assimilating and look at the problems that is causing……everyone is having to bend over backwards so as not to offend anyone with our Christian traditions or beliefs, our laws are tested against their culture and religion and as the powers that be are so afraid to offend culture and religion is winning. It begs the question why do they want to come to this country and not fit in…………….

    • I agree also. If we look back to the 60s I remember how intollerant we were of the Greeks and Italians as they stuck together in their own little areas, and didn’t try to learn English.

    • Great sentiments Rob…the first immigrants may not integrate fully, which is understandable, but their decedents do, and in the meantime Australian culture is changed…enriched really 🌸

    • Rob Weaver I do believe a HUGE majority of those that come to Australia want to do just that…fit in and become Australian.

    • Tricia Sexton It is only the ones who don’t want to fit in and want to change us that we object to, and as far as I am concerned there too many of them.

    • Agree Multiculturalism is divisive and only serves to weaken the cohesiveness of any society. It is a constant remainder of “them and us” rather than creating “us”

    • Lee Horrocks not really, multiculturalism is not embracing the culture of the country you live in and maintaining your own culture to the exclusion of others, where multi racialism is being of a different racial group but accepting and embracing the culture of your new country. Big difference I think

    • Lee Horrocks No, it isn’t. Multiculturalism leads people to believe they have a right to change our ways and laws.

    • Anne Webber Really? Ever lived as part of a very small cultural, linguistic, racial and religious minority – respectfully observing their laws and customs? If not, I can recommend a few places to try.

  10. as long as people respect our language, laws, customs,way of life, not change our way of life to suit theirs,ok

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    • Yes and this is the reason multiculturalism doesn’t work to many different religions and this creates lots of problems but if ppl would appreciate this beautiful country of ours and try to mix with one another we could all have a great life

  11. i loved being part of a multi-cultural society right up until the arab muslims came to this country. the australian muslims of old settled here and assimilated and we all got on well together. i wish that were still the case.

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    • The Muslims have been in Australia since the early 1800’s. Look up your history. The first muslim temple was built in 1860. The Ghan railway is named in honour of the Afghans who came to Australia in the early 1800’s and who used camels to travel through central Australia bringing mail and supplies to outback settlements. They were all muslims. They have been here longer than you have.

    • Ruth Hourigan you think i didn’t know this why . . . You did notice didn’t you that i said “australian muslims of old settled here and assimilated and we all go on well together”? so i don’t need to look up my history but perhaps next time you will read all of my comment please.

    • Lyn Pride
      So do the majority of new refugees. But there are many italians and Chinese and Greeks and other nationalities who do not.
      My issue is why just name Muslims. Go to any Australian China town and see how many can’t speak English and won’t try and fit in with Australian society. And that goes for other nationalities as well.

    • Ruth Hourigan the chinese you are speaking off have probably come from China recently and they will fit in eventually because the chinese are very adaptable. we name muslims because the newer arrivals are the ones causing all the problems and i haven’t noticed any italians or greeks who haven’t assimilated and thoroughly enjoyed being australians.

    • You just got it right .i have so many beautiful friends from Italy Greece Poland Vietnam China and a wonderful Japanese daughter in law ..then along came the Muslims sad but they are the ones missing out on what this country and its people have to offer I just wish they didn’t want to destroy it like they are doing to their own countries

    • Nice to be able to still have an opinion isnt it. Who is talking about the greeks the Italians the chinese and the others that came to help build this beautiful country and make it what it is today. No these people are coming here to deface it with ugly evil ridden mosques . Those mongrels that wont even stand for our Anthem with their mongrel kids in tow . Call me racist call you what ever you want but nobody asked the AUSTRALIAN people if we wanted these low lifes here. Why!!. Just been to Sizzlers.The mongrel kids were running around like monkeys with nobody chastising themwhile we were trying to have some lunch. Now don’t get on your high horses everyone. You’ve had your opinion now I have had mine.

    • Marilyn Beck i have a japanese daughter in law too and we’ve a lot of friends who have come or their parents have come to our country. They are always welcome in my home.

    • They came here, a lot of them not invited, for a better life. They do not like what they see and want to change what they found, including changing the Constitution to suit them. As if saying, we are here now and you change to suit us – there are many bleeding hearts out there who bow to them. You give them your hand and they take your whole arm.

    • Well Lyn as child migrant from 1951 my family coming from Europe, I remember my parents being so happy to be in such a beautiful & peaceful country, we where in a migrant camp for 2yrs before my dad got a job in a country town, my parents would be turning in their graves ,
      if they could see what’s going on now.

    • Heather Inglis sadly i agree with you. so glad you and your family settled in and loved Australia.

    • I am reading so much about how Australians have been stopped doing this that and the other thing in their own country…….What…… I must be blind…I still celebrate Christmas. I still celebrate Easter, I sing the National Anthem of Australia despite not being a citizen…..NOBODY has stopped me from doing anything. In addition to that IF any school my child had attended tried to stop the anthem being sung then I would rally up all the mums and protest LOUD AND CLEAR. If you do not like something then do just that.

    • Ruth Hourigan um sorry i’ve lost the thread of thought here. are we talking about the Chinese? Old people do have trouble picking up a new language but 30-40 years?

    • I met some new Muslim migrants the other day.They have 3 children . They home school. They also went to social security for welfare .Both young educated parents. Having bragged to me that they had been traveling the world through Jordon which is very safe .
      Said they were frightened in our shopping centre. People looked at them? Of course they looked ,they were different with their Habib on their heads. People are curious. We are a town of Seiks and turbins and Hare Christians not Habibs and Muslims. so they look unlike anyone else here.
      This couple had family living 50ks away who they normally lived with. Why are we giving them living away from home allowances and welfare.
      She was from Indonesia and educated in university in Australia Not certain where he was from.
      But I was angry to see these people claiming welfare for 5 people when our governments are threatening to take benefits from the Australian peoples health system These people are roiting our welfare system. Governments are looking after these people who have only taken from our country. and our government s taking from our elderly so they live in poverty Many of the elderly people have given everything to our country. Many of elderly have protected our country from the people who are arriving now. Doesn’t sense

    • No Beth I live in the REAL world. NOBODY has stopped me from doing anything?????? Have they stopped you???. If so tell me about it. MMmmmmm this will BE interesting.

    • I am sure that if anyone’s knows any Muslims they know how wonderful they are . I try not to judge people based on ignorance but rather actual knowledge of the individual .

    • Leanne Kovalevsky and that is the australian way. decades ago, aussies would ‘have a go’ at another nationality but his mate might be that same nationality and you wouldn’t dare say anything against him.

    • Susan Weston i am intrigued to know why you descibed the people you referred to as Muslims rather than Indonesia immigrants. How were you able to determine what welfare benefits they are on???

    • Kerry Sandford i think wearing the habib might be a dead give away and it sounds like they have told her about the welfare (judging from her comments).

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