Barnaby suggests going back to the 60s to combat domestic violence 338



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Back in the 1960s, it was something we just didn’t want to admit existed. No one talked about it. It was something that happened “behind closed doors”, and since then it has started to emerge from the shadows. So should we be looking at way back then for inspiration to deal with it now?

On Monday night’s Q&A, politician Barnaby Joyce opened the door on domestic violence. The deputy Nationals leader started off well, but then strayed off track and straight back to those days of shame when domestic violence didn’t happen to “nice people” and women were expected just to accept being hit or abused as part of everyday life.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports after his good start he continued: “Ultimately it’s a cultural change and we’ve all got to be a part of that. This may seem a bit quaint … but I think we’ve got to start changing our attitude all the time in how we deal with women. Like, don’t swear in front of them. It’s not politically incorrect to open a door. All these things so we can change the attitude so we can show that we respect people. Because if you don’t respect from a younger age then how are you going to develop it later on.”

The studio audience reacted with rolling eyes and giggles after he said  “open a door” .

Yes, that’s what he said, “open a door”. While his intentions were good, it showed trying to build a new attitude on a very old view of the world, a view we’d all rather consign to the past.

We shouldn’t be too hard on Joyce for his choice of words because we all make stupid mistakes when speaking off the cuff, but it does show an underlying set of beliefs and values based firmly in the 1960s.

Sadly, domestic violence is still a very real issue. An Australian Bureau of Statistics study found more than a million women had experienced physical or sexual assault by their male current or ex-partner since the age of 15 and just under half a million Australian women reported they had experienced physical or sexual violence or sexual assault in the past 12 months

Should we really be suggesting in 2015 not swearing and making the effort to open a door can change attitudes? Yes, respect is important, but being treated as an equal and not looked down to is an integral part of that.

What do you think? Have you ever had domestic violence perpetuated against you or a friend? 

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  1. There wasn’t domestic violence in the ’60’s , wasn’t there? What a prat !!

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    • Really you would even ask that question? My father would come home DRUNK and yes he would beat the crap out of my mother, and she was definitely not the only one. Yes of course there was domestic violence.

    • Joyce of course there was domestic violence in the 60s…it was there in the forties…i lived next door to a family whose wife/mother coped axregular hidind every saturday night when the lord and master was royally drunk. Domestic violence has been around for thousands of years it is regarded as a birthright by a seriously large numbrr of men and has changed very little over tge years…the only difference now is that there is a growing public awareness of it.

    • I didn’t say it didn’t happen. I was being sarcastic. I know horrific stories of how women and children were in those and earlier, but there was nothing they could do about it.

  2. Barnaby’s a joke! Was he even around in the sixties?, Domestic violence has been goin on since the Cave Man .It’s like rape, it’s only to show the “weak” woman how physically powerful he is. It’s all about power , nothing else.. The problem is, the offenders may be “strong” physically, BUT WEAK IN THE HEAD , as they try to subdue we weak women into submission.Until Men realise they are not god’s representatives on Earth, nothing will change

  3. Barnaby’s idea to stop domestic violence is to get the men to open the door for women !! I have some bad news for Barnaby, that will change nothing. They need to invest in more women’s refuges to allow these women and their children to escape violent men and have tougher jail times for offenders. Barnaby is not the sharpest tool in the shed !!

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    • I don’t open the door for my wife and before anyone comes in and stones me, she would get indignant if I did and say she was capable of opening her own door, but I would not more think of hitting her than I would start to fly around the room. Joyce is an idiot

    • Investing more in refuges is not the answer either, it is all about education, stop it before it starts with the next generation.

    • Marilyn Clark wake up, women and children need help now, it can’t wait for the next generation, you obviously never turn on the news , every day another woman or child is murdered

    • Well I do open the door for women when it’s appropriate/ polite and I also open the door for men! It has absolutely nothing to do with domestic violence.

    • You having to be kidding Marilyn Clark and how many will die while we wait for school children to grow up?

    • we all lost lots of ‘morals’ – both man and women need to learn how to communicate and respect each other even if we go back to opening door to women/wife which could be very welcome in many cases. Where from agression comes from? In many cases from disrespect for each other, from jelousy, or from inability to communicate to solve problems! And, our children are learning from us – so, whole generations of disrespectful people are groving-uop around us and we are tolerating it, even loughing at it with pride how our sons and daughters are handling ‘it’. Very hard to fix it, we have big fight on our hands to make society respectful and without feeling that violence can ‘make everithyng good’.

    • I agree with you Marijana Jerbic , but for now we need to make sure there is a place to go for the violence that is happening at this time. It takes a generation or more to educate in the meantime women and children are being killed

    • I thought that Barnaby Joyce said that respect and manners would be a start. I agree with the sentiment. Respect for all people is definitely lacking in Australia today.

    • respect is one thing Alice Weber and violence is another, simple human kindness would go a long way to slowing the problem but it won’t stop while there are violent men in society

    • I know the topic is about violent men but there is also violent wemon out there as well . Proberly more men .. Where do the men go !! Just saying !!
      Love and respect is basically learnt from home life . I don’t need the car door opened for me in fact I’m proberly out of the car first anyway , maybe when I’m older but ,then that’s a different issue . Unfortunately if kids see mum not treated right then it seems to be repeated in them as adults , I’m not saying everyone but would seem to be a common factor especially if drink /drugs are involved . Domestic violence has always been around just not talked about like it is now .
      Sad but, true .

    • to any of you who are saying it starts with respect, please if you ever get into a violent encounter with anyone, yell out respect me and see if the perpetrator stops!! I bet they don’t , it is too late to start demanding respect from adults , they are already set in their ways and obviously have violent personalities. We need to concentrate on protecting those poor women and children

    • Caroline Schnidt while I agree that children will be influenced by how there parents treat them I don’t agree that this is all the reason why domestic violence is on the increase. I also don’t agree that if one comes from such an environment that they to will be women or children bashers. This violence is increasing things such as those violent video games that show women as these trivial sex pots who fight like a man these games are horrific they desensitize our younger generations. Also even the news is violent kids are growing up around the TV being on 24/7 with violence all around them. Then let’s talk about the drug situation it’s not just smoking a bit of weed and getting stoned the drugs these days are a Russian roulette they change not only moods but the brain the body aging crippling and destroying them. There are many factors that are creating this increase. The liberal government in the first 12 months of getting elected cut most of these services that was helping or at least addressing the situation. The money that the liberals have just announced will now have to start over again reinventing the wheel. Thousand of women’s refuges over Australia that where already overworked got closed youth services ,drug and rehabilitation services, women’s resources closed. Yep don’t be fooled by what they have given lately they made a very bad decision when they defunded these existing services now they are covering there bum

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      • They ARE re-inventing the wheel by starting 14 new regional centres but no mention of putting back the funding for those centres that lost funding in the last 12 months and most of this was for well run refuges, some which had to close. Besides it is not just male domestic violence we have to worry about – there are things like trying to get an education and finding you can’t afford the fees at Uni or at Tafe and now our State Govt is talking about selling 27 Tafe colleges which will probably mean fees go up and this is for blue collar type work so our 800,000 workers looking for a job will blow out again. All these things drive stress which is one thing leading to violence and anger against everyone just not to women. Every kid seems to have a phone or tablet to play violent video games and there is a lot of violence on TV and film and people of all ages get de-sensitised and see it as the “way to go”. Maybe we do need to go back to the sixties and start again

    • We need more shelters NOW, but we also need to educate children from the word go, both in the home and at school that violence in any form, is just not acceptable.

    • Part of the problem Marilyn Clark was the Abbott government slashed funding to shelters which was already stretched to breaking point. If you have nowhere to run what do you do.

    • The only thing I’d add Bea Little is the alcohol consumption mixed in with these other factors, but agree with all you stated

    • I have been saying for years now that people don’t treat violence or death in the same way we used to. There seems to be little respect for it since there is so much violence in the world in general; we watch violent films etc., and in the end people do become desensitised to it, especially the younger generation. Also, taking drugs and alcohol is a big problem too, and results in violence in both men and women. Men should never hit women under any circumstances, but alas I can only see the problem getting worse.

    • Instead of expecting politicians to fix the problem, start with yourselves and the example your behaviour sets for your children. Monkey see, monkey do! First action, cut out violent computer games, go ride a bike with your kids, play in the park, teach them to garden. Stop watching violent movies and allowing teenagers to think its ‘normal’ to kill, mame, murder and be disrespectful each other and to authority. It doesn’t take an intellectual giant to realise the correlation between violence on a screen, continually bombarding them, will ultimately have a violent and negative impact on their attitude to society in general.

    • Perpetrators of violence must be made responsible for their actions and not given minimum sentences ( there are noticable differences between mens sentences and womens)

    • Jean Phillips while I appreciate your advice, I am afraid it will be monkey see, monkey do at your house, you will have teach your own children, my son is an adult and does not have a violent bone in his body and I have no grandchildren

    • Libby Johnson don’t you think adulthood is a bit old to be trying to teach people to have respect, the people committing these crimes are adults now, once again let me repeat..if we rely on this being taught in school, we will have to wait a generation or more for these children to grow up..if a child starts school today at 5 years of age it will probably be another 20 years before he has children of his own and in some cases even longer than the meant time women and children are people want we just ignore that ?!! Yes it should be taught in school but not at the expense of people in danger NOW

  4. My family was Respect focused , especially for women and the aged but above all respect for oneself . A society that is not founded on respect is going to have its jails full as ours are now ..

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    • How simplistic is tht? alchohol fuels violence, a drunk does not repsect anyone , Jealousy over rides respect for many, respect will not solve this problems..actions will

  5. I sort of get what he is saying. Showing respect to each other is very important. Because if you respect someone how can you abuse them. To me abuse is the ultimate disrespect. To me it says that you see that person as of no value at all. As for opening doors. Is this a bad thing? In my time I have held doors open for men, women, elderly people etc. No big deal I was in that situation and I did it and thought nothing of it. I cannot remember one person not thanking me. In my turn I have had people hold doors for me particularly when I had babies in a pram. I have also had doors just about take me out from people closing them with no regard for the people behind them, Yes there was DV in the 60’s and everybody knew and nobody did anything but the same is true for child abuse. I remember in the 60’s when I was at school that a teacher was known to sexually abuse students. The whole town knew and no one did anything. That was the 60’s thankfully we have moved on. Back to Mr Joyce. I think he is just saying (perhaps clumsily) that we need to get back to be polite and having manners and showing respect. It will not solve the problem but it can’t hurt.

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    • You people ever heard of Ted Bundy , he raped an murdered 14 women, he was very polite and also well educated and good looking but that never stopped him murdering and raping. Politeness is one thing, violence is a whole different issue

    • you might ask the ladies in here who have suffered from domestic violence if their husbands had opened door for them if it would have made a difference !! I suspect the answeR would be NO

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