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Australia is committing to a new and controversial form of warfare. What does this mean for our future?

It’s hard not to have incredibly conflicted feelings about unmanned drones. They offer safety for one side, utter devastation for the other. Now Australia is directly involved.

According to The New Daily, the Australian Defence Force has sent personnel to the US Air Force to help pilot and operate MQ-9 Reaper Drones.

“This is more than just training,” said Professor Richard Tanter of the University of Melbourne. “This is participating in warfare”.

These terrifying machines, controlled remotely, can fly for days over targets, and are often blamed for increasing radicalisation in Muslim areas.

New figures just released by the Defence Department reveal Australia has participated in more than 1,000 missions over Iraq since 2014, with a total of 631 bombs dropped. Two further bombs have been dropped on Syria this year.

“This is more than just training,” said Professor Richard Tanter of the University of Melbourne. “This is participating in warfare”.

Professor Tanter said there’s no way to know how many people – military or ordinary men, women and children – have been killed by these bombs.

Nor do we know for sure how much of this damage has a been funded by Australian taxpayers.

Professor Des Ball, former head of the Australian Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, said he “would not be surprised” if the total number of children killed exceeded the number of terrorists.

In another worrying development, Australia could be buying these drones for itself – something more likely since Italy announced it would be taking them on board.

Dr. Jennifer Hunt from the Centre for International Security told The New Daily that drone sales were becoming a huge business – and one that has the potential to be abused if left unchecked.

“Given that Australia has also been a close partner in this arena it is unlikely that Australia would be denied the opportunity to procure this technology,” she said.

Clinton Fernandes, Professor of International Relations at UNSW Clinton, warns that this version of warfare can only make radicalisation worse, as it allows an area to be “patrolled basically indefinitely”.

“The sense that you might die at any moment is dreadful”.

How do you feel about Australia be participating in drone warfare? Should our government and defence department be more open in telling us?

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  1. wether we like it or not the whole world is preparing for war. I would rather we were ready than get caught with our pants down.

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    • One wonders why ISIS, America and Israel wants Syria destroyed:
      “Israel has officially stated that it plans to permanently annex the Syrian Golan Heights. Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, for example, stated that Israel and the Golan are part and parcel, and that the international community should accept the annexation as a fact. It is noteworthy that there has been a discovery of major Syrian oil resources in the Golan Heights.
      Entrepreneurs with vested interests include the US-based Genie Energy. Members of the “think tank” are, among others, Dick Cheney, James Woolsey, Bill Richardson, Jacob Lord Rothschild, Rupert Murdoch, Larry Summers and Michael Steinhardt who all are members of the Strategic Advisory Board of a Newark, New Jersey-based oil and gas group with the name, Genie Energy.”

  2. well i hope not i would like the world to be here for my grandkids

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    • there have always been evil bastards in it. nw war can mean there will be no earth left that isnt radioactive etc etc bioweapons not lie just dropping bombs where things can be rebuilt.

    • War creates ‘evil bastards’ it does not eliminate them. And the most evil bastards of all – the businessmen profiting from war are never killed in war because they sell to both sides and are therefore always on the winning side.

    • exactly how many wars have there been because of all the bastards and it changes nothing it starts all over again

    • it is an unwinable arguement, people are going to die in wars lots of innocent people, the innocent never have anywhere to go look at hiroshema how many innocent people kids just going to school were killed and for what so the whole things can e forgtten and start again

    • The war to end all wars was an argument between cousins if you check it out. All relatives of Queen Victoria and all Empire builders. Then France joins in to catch up and to try and build their Empire which as a result of which France had the recent Paris attacks. There is a direct correlation and it isn’t because of Muslims. How many wars do we need for these Empire builders?

  3. The world or part of it is already at war and we need to be ready here at home and to join in with Russia and China. ISIS needs to be stopped the world over.

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    • ISIS is only in Syria and Iraq. Think about how they get their weapons and trucks and food etc. They are landlocked with no way to get anything “delivered to their door” or to sell their oil unless which is happening Governments of other countries are allowing it to happen. This is not about ISIS as they were not in existence before 2013. Their oil is being sold through Israel and Turkey. So who are the terrorists, ISIS or the people supplying and funding them?

    • There may be terrorists all over the world but most are home grown Citizens of their own countries using some excuse to behave like madmen. You do understand about Christian and Atheist fundamentalists as well as the IRA problem we had and the Christians slaughtering Muslims in Africa and the extremists in Myanmar slaughtering Rohingya people. Nearly 400 mass shootings in America this year.

    • Kath Douglas And you have some facts to divulge or just showing what rubbish is circulating. Just because we had a now ex PM stomping the country, Death cult, death cult, death cult just shows him as a war monger. Why not speak up about the real terrorism proven and in our midst? 78 dead women. Intimate partner violence is the most common type of violence against women, affecting 30 per cent of women worldwide, according to the 2013 World Health Organization report Global and regional estimates of violence against women: Prevalence and health effects of intimate partner violence and non-partner sexual violence. That is the very real terrorism not an imaginary terror that suits the rich because they make profits from it.

    • Good effort at distraction Oz! Although domestic violence is horrible and we need to take action, we also cannot neglect to take action against those who bomb, shoot, behead and massacre innocent people going about their everyday lives! The terrorist may be home grown! Have you never heard of sleepers, or of radicalisation! Of course you have! You just choose to ignore facts! If someone can see the writing on the wall and brings attention to the possibilities of disaster, he is declared a war monger, but if he neglects to warn us and doesn’t take action to protect us, then history will call him weak, or an idiot! How many warnings were voiced in the wake of Hitler’s rise to power and the possibility of a world at war? And the same for WW2? Go back even to Napoleon! There are those happy to block the view with sand, and then there are those with their eyes open.

    • Mary Campagnolo So Australian problems don’t count. 78 dead women don’t count. As I said Hitler’s rise to power was caused by unflinching people who wanted to drag the Germans through the mud when they lost the war. Now you wish to do the same to people who have been being bombed by the allies for two generations and more. Sleepers, I think you have too much imagination and help ISIS spread too much gossip. ISIS will probably send a thank you card to the people who spread war mongering.

  4. Oh, another war? Here’s an idea. Let’s send the politicians, judges and lawyers this time instead of our sons and daughters!

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    • I agree. It would be sorted very quickly but add to your list the owners of the war machine, the people who profit from selling the weapons.

  5. start by bombing the crap out of places like Lakemba and blowing up all the mosques across the country preferably when they are full

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    • That’s is absolutely the very last thing we want to happen, I don’t believe you just said that???

    • well I suggest you take your head out of the sand, because the war is coming unfortunately, and it will be in every western country they have invaded, starting in Europe within 12 months is my personal prediction, then it will flow on from there around the world, until they are obliterated, people have the right to not live in fear especially from these inbreds, who constantly want to change our way of life,

  6. Australia should be like Switzerland. Our army should ONLY be there to protect us at home and not fight other people’s war. I have not yet heard of ANY terrorist threat on Switzerland! Stay neutral… Promote peace… Most of those wars we get involved in are often based on lies, dirty money and petrol…making big money for the war machine.

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    • The Australian budget is about to hit a deficit of of $44 billion. Roughly $40 billion has been spent on “Defence” this year. Halve that spending and in two years the deficit is nearly gone. Very simplistic but think about it. We spend about 2% of GDP on “Defense. Japan up until recently spent 1% of their GDP. Deficits are caused to a large degree by Government decisions.

    • How right you are! Australia and England follow America like a puppy! Australia should look after it’s own people. Everything is kept secret and that is wrong. As usual the tail is wagging the dog!

    • Wonder what our lives would be like now if people had had that attitude at the beginning of WW1 and WW2.

    • Glenis Shaw World War1 was a war between cousins. Edward didn’t like what his cousin Willem did and Nicky joined in. All about Empire building and flying flags whilst killing a generation of the young. All to keep the rich in power and getting richer. The result of WW1 and the reparations demanded by the allies led to the rise of Hitler. So don’t talk about people’s attitude to war. They were told jump and they asked how high. As a matter of fact WW1 led to the Middle East being carved up by France and Britain and France added Syria to their Empire. There is a direct causal link between that action in WW1 and the Paris bombings. However who really wants to think of the wrongs of the Western countries, lets just bomb some more innocent people because ISIS are not often affected by the bombing.

    • I totally agree with you Oz . I am dumbfounded by the sheer ignorance of the masses. This war in Syria was actually planned just after WW2. Educate yourselves please for the love of Australia!

    • And everyone in Switzerland is a member of the Army reserve, young people all do national service and every male at home is required keep and have their government issued military assault rifle ready.
      Did you know about all that too???

    • Yes we do know that Jon Belmonte, they are a neutral country and of course they are trained to protect their country and it’s citizens??

    • Okay Lee then why oh why don’t we do the same in Australia if you want us to be more like Switzerland.

    • Cheryl Holt Because it is simply they take the guns home because they go home not to barracks. A Senator in Australia just had this argument with a man and was stupid enough to say I have been there, have you. The man was a Swedish citizen and even posted part of his identity card to prove it. He ripped the Senator to pieces as the Senator was totally wrong.

    • Even though Switzerland has not been involved in an armed conflict since a standoff between Catholics and Protestants in 1847, the Swiss are very serious not only about their right to own weapons but also to carry them around in public. Because of this general acceptance and even pride in gun ownership, nobody bats an eye at the sight of a civilian riding a bus, bike or motorcycle to the shooting range, with a rifle slung across the shoulder.

    • The most known incident was 2001, after a disgruntled citizen opened fire with his army rifle inside a regional parliament, killing 14 and injuring 14 other.
      The most recent one was May 2016 when 5 people were shot an killed by a person.
      There is an estimated 300 people killed in Switzerland each year by firearms

    • Swiss citizens are a damn sight more government controlled than our society. I think you have grass is greener on the other side of the fence syndrome.

    • Jon Belmonte You are talking about attitude in the same way we drive cars to a large degree responsibly. Unfortunately in America there is a large minority who have no feelings of responsibility about owning guns. How many children have fired guns accidently and killed a parent, a sibling or a friend.

  7. How do I feel about Australia be participating in drone warfare? Not happy.

    Should our government and defence department be more open in telling us? Yes

    I read the other day Australia were averaging 20 missions a day. The US were doing 1,200 a day during the first Iraq invasion. Yes we are doing it but, it is bugger all. We are probably doing more practice sorties at home on the bombing ranges. B|

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    • Look at the U.S. Aircraft numbers compared to ours and do the math. We are restricted in that we cannot cause collateral civilian damage, not easy to find targets with the scumbags hiding behind kids.

    • Ah yes I remember the first time the Enterprise was in Sydney harbour. It had more strike aircraft on it than the total aircraft in the RAAF. If my memory is correct it also had 5,600 crew on board. B|

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